“Forgetting Krishna, the living entity has been attracted by the external feature from time immemorial. Therefore the illusory energy [maya] gives him all kinds of misery in his material existence.” (Chaitanya Charitamrita, Madhya 20.117)
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कृष्ण भुलिऽ सेइ जीव अनादि-बहिर्मुख
अतएव माया तारे देय संसार-दुःख
kṛṣṇa bhuli’ sei jīva anādi-bahirmukha
ataeva māyā tāre deya saṁsāra-duḥkha
Friend1: I know people have debates about the fall of the jiva.
Friend2: What do you mean by “fall”? And define “jiva.”
Friend1: Jiva is the conditioned living entity. Technically belonging to the marginal energy of God.
Friend2: What are on the sides of this margin?
Friend1: The spiritual energy and the material energy. Everything is eternal since it emanates from the Almighty, but the two sides are opposite in nature.
Friend2: How so?
Friend1: With the spiritual energy there is no degrading influence of time. Spirit and…
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